Wednesday, June 11, 2008

store what you eat

STORE WHAT YOU EAT
We have covered this before. Every Joe Blow survival writer and his brother has covered this before. Only store the foods in your apocalypse stockpile that you eat normally. People do not eat MRE’s or freeze dried foods regularly. The MRE is easy enough to get used to since the protein and fat content borders a super sized McGreasey meal. But believe me, they get real old real quick. The lack of fiber ( they will bind you up in a hurry ) and live enzymes really are telling in very short order. We won’t even go into overprice issues. Just leave it at the unfamiliarity. Even canned foods may not be what you normally eat. I eat tuna, refried beans and fruit from cans, occasionally chili and baked beans and very little else. I would not be very happy with a diet of canned goods ( and again, there is the cost issue ).
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There is a lot to be said for not being too picky with a post collapse menu. After all, we should be happier than pigs in slop that we are eating at all. But knowing something intellectually and being able to overcome your body chemistry are too different things. Guys, take sex. You know you can live without it. You know we pay a very high price for it. Yet we allow the need for it to rule most of our lives. It doesn’t matter how many times we tell ourselves we need to overcome the urge, we still do stupid things because of it. Even when you are telling yourself what you are doing is stupid, you do it anyway. A very mild case would be buying the wife roses and dinner after a fight. Yes, you want to live with the love of your life in perfect harmony and you feel bad and you love her super duper like and wish we could all just get along in our sunshine and lollipop universe. Plus, you really want to get laid soon.
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One of the first reactions to stress is going to be a decrease in appetite. Let’s say that legions of zombie bikers are encircling your compound ( it would be called a house normally but nowadays if you have more than a pellet gun in the house and aren’t a Hillary supporter it is considered a armed compound with terrorists inside ). Fight or flight kicks in and the last thing on your mind is breaking out the cast iron skillet for some fried potatoes. Once the fear subsides your appetite is going to remain slightly fragile. Especially if you introduce weird food into your diet. Now, I have never been attacked by legions of biker zombies but I have encountered plenty of stressful situations, as have we all. Such as moving. Relationship problems. Problems at work. You get the idea. So it really should be a rule you don’t break. Only store what you eat normally. However.
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I think most people also assume they need to duplicate their menu as far as possible. If they choose cans, they buy as close as possible to a regular meal. Canned meat, canned fruit, canned vegetables. Canned dry potatoes. Same with freeze dried. Duplicate the meal as close as possible. Herein lies the problem. Either the cost will be too high or you won’t store enough because of a tight budget. I would advise you that you should only store a few items that you normally eat. Not the entire menu. Wheat, beans, fat and perhaps milk. Not canned meat or vegetables or fruits. Get most of your protein from combining the wheat and beans, get your vitamins from sprouts. Of course you want some of the regular foods. I am not a herbivore. I crave meat. But it is important to have enough food in stock. So I stored up wheat before I bought any canned meat. I didn’t even start stockpiling beans until my wheat supply was secure. Yes, it is far from ideal, but to my thinking a lot of sub par is better than a little of perfect. I’m far more concerned with beans than meat. Canned meat buys are few and far between. A luxury. I understand it is not my normal dinner. But wheat and beans are normal in my overall diet. Right now I eat wheat for breakfast and lunch. I’ll miss meat but my body will be used to wheat when I start eating it for dinner. I love refried beans so legumes will not be a shock to eat every day. Not perfect, not ideal. But cheap and food I’m used to eating.
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Don’t duplicate your present menu. It is based on cheap petroleum and most likely will not be normal for you the rest of your life. Rather, start eating more beans and grains and make them the bulk of your storage food. I agree with others that a little bit of meat is so much better than none at all, even when combining beans and grains. My body notices the difference from just a few ounces of meat added in. Normal people crave and need meat. My point is that it will become more of a luxury than you will care for. Food prices are increasing double digits yearly now. You don’t have the resources to stockpile what you want, only the bare minimum you need. Slowly move your diet towards more plant food, and stock them. After you have a full pantry, then add your luxuries. Don’t panic because you think it will cost a grand per family member in storage food. Instead, stockpile the cheaper basics as you move your everyday diet in that direction also.
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My apologies for this broken record. A lot is lack of fresh material, a lot is my very bad feeling about future food prices and/or availability. Far better to panic now and cheaply stock up on food, then when one is comfortable to add the expensive items. The alternative is being unable to stockpile latter, even on the once cheap beans and grains. Global food stockpiles are down so far there is almost no wiggle room. You should be able to get by on procrastinating certain purchases such as land or gas guzzling RV’s. Prices on those most likely will fall. I don’t think food should be one of those things. I can’t see food prices falling.
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15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Food prices absolutely are NOT going to fall.....in fact, we'll be very lucky if they don't go up more than 15-20% a year as far out as I can see. We literally DO eat oil.

IF anyone doesn't have a year's worth in house RIGHT NOW, you better make that priority #1.....followed by the ability to produce MOST of your own as priority #2.

Most people won't, of course......their cable TV, cell phone, etc, will be more of a necessity to them than true LIFE INSURANCE.....but anyone bothering to read blogs like this needs to get their head out of their ass if that is it's current location and GET WITH THE PROGRAM.

I currently have 4+ years stored in combination of frozen, canned, dried, freeze dried, etc.....and we raise a 1/4 acre garden every year along with beef, chickens and catfish + fruit trees. ( Just picked cherries last week and canned 50 pints )

TA

riverwalker said...

Don't forget to be careful. Last year it was fresh spinach making everybody sick and contaminated dog food killing our "dawgs", now it's fresh tomatoes with all the contamination. Stock up the pantry and you better get that garden growing now. Remember to stock some "comfort" foods also to help with the stress factor. With food prices the way they are, you can't ignore this subject. Good post!

scoutinlife said...

Great post stocking the pantry now will save ya a bit of money as well down the road. Also in the next few weeks plant seed will be going on clearance. Which will be a good time to buy them for next years fresh produce you can raise.

Anonymous said...

Good Post. I've often been confused by "store what you eate", especially from the cost angle. When I started storing, I did it for "just in case". Now, I feel like I might really have to eat the stuff. I have a mix of wheat, corn, dry milk, and beans. Mostly wheat, but as wheat prices rise, I have more corn. I am storing for multiple people, not just myself.
One thing seldom mentioned is peanut butter. I eat a lot of it and store a lot of it. I figure to keep about 2 years ahead would be ideal ( I am about 1 year ahead). It really seems to store well. I find peanut butter sandwiches with reconstituted milk to be a very good and cheap meal. Peanut allergies would be a bummer.

BigBear said...

My God don't forget the coffee. Now that is a comfort.

Anonymous said...

MRE's should be an emergency, very short term Option only, not a total survival plan. Besides all the other bad calories they loaded with salt, which will drive your blood presure through the roof. Not a good thing in SHTF situation.

I have started making my own ready to eat meals and canning them. I have speghetti sauce, chili, chicken stew, french onion soup, split pea soup. some variety and easy to heat even over a camp fire if needed. We use them on a regular basis and make new about every 3 to 6 months depending on inventory. And Bigbear I go to the dent and bent store and find cofee at half price all the time. I repackage in the seal a meal and keep in totes (I have many totes with lots of good stuff in them.)..

SurvivalTopics.com said...

Yes. Skip the MRE's. Stockpile Beans and Rice. This combo is better, far cheaper, and actually good for you.

Heckinahandbasket said...

USDA is predicting 10% less corn brought to harvest this year over last.

Here's a few back of the napkin calculations I did on my blog last night.

What could this teensy bit of grain fill?
If you were going to stash it at your retreat you'd need 2,492,997,601 standard 5 gallon pails
or about
9,978,003 Chevy Suburbans
40.6 Houston Astrodomes
360 Titanics
45 Empire State Buildings

At 150 lbs per capita per year it could feed the country of Mexico (~109 million) their staple starch for a little over 4.5 years

Anonymous said...

"At 150 lbs per capita per year it could feed the country of Mexico (~109 million) their staple starch for a little over 4.5 years"


Unless the "out of country" relatives show back up for dinner.

blueduck said...

Yes sir indeed, all foods are made possible by oil. coal or some sort of fuel which is needed to get the seed to the famr, plant the seed, till the soil harvest the produce, send the produce to the middleman, who sends it to the market which in turn sends it to the end user.... oh and back on the farm growing wheat and corn, the use of petrochemicals also in part of the crude oil that is drawn out of the ground..... if peak oil or just plain ole high prices continue, then the cost of those grains and legumes will increase accordingly.

Even though using hydroponics needs some petrochemicals, it is probbly cheaper by far to get what you ned for a few years and store/use it than pay the ever increasing cost of rising food prices and grow most of your own. The vertigro unit i have [single stack] has a foot print of 24 by 24 inches and can be run on 12 volt with the right PM pump. the package of fertilizer and nutrients for 6 months that came with it was only 2 pounds.... other systems like a 9 bucket one would use about the same, and both will grow a good deal of greens... or tother veggies.. ok they require water, but not as much as a garden does. Simple sand hydroponics has a formula to use http://www.home.aone.net.au/~hydroponics/index.html
for those do-it-your-self crowd and a couple links worth looking at as well. a very primative system is two five gallon buckets with a tube between them at the bottom and swap them from a shelf to the floor use roks for growing medium and make some nutrients up as you go...
It is an expense, but at some point after the crash a person is gonna have to put their firearms away and go back to farming of some sort anyway, might as well put a few funds into growing your own food now.

William
Idaho

dccdmom said...

I think the saying "store what you eat, eat what you store" really confuses a lot of people. Jim dos a great job of explaining that it means that you need to change your eating habits to get used to storable food, not just buy only the stuff you like to eat. Most storage foods make perfectly good meals for now too. Breakfasts: oatmeal, cornmeal mush, other cooked grains like wheat or millet, pancakes, waffles(yes, I have a non electric waffle iron), homemade bread toast, french toast (if you have chickens for eggs), biscuits and gravy(you can make gravy with some shortening, flour, and a bullion cube) Lunch and dinner: homemade bean and grain soups with any available veggies thrown in, beans and rice, beans and tortillas, wheat pilaf with any veggies you can grow thrown in. Changing they type of beans or seasonings can make all of these taste completely different from day to day.

Anonymous said...

Blueduck, U B DA MAN!!!Great thinking dude

earthmaster said...

After the dimensions shift, the physical aspect will began to fade. This will not happen instantly, instead there will be days of confusion on a narrow brink.

It will not matter if you have a safe house. If you have not found peace within, if you have destroyed and caused misery, If you have not given help and hope, food and clothing, to those in desperation- YOU WILL NOT SURVIVE.

You know this to be true. You will not survive because you will have gone mad. And God help those that are trapped and have to deal with you. Strange manifestations will occur to those whose minds are consumed with weapons and fear. Of course, the stockpiled stuff will chain those misguided ones to the present dimension. Time will have stopped allowing the nightmare to rein.

theotherryan said...

Here is the thing. Look at it in 3 distince areas of food storage:

First is normal pantry stuff. This is the mac and cheese, spaghetti, pasta, canned goods, stove top stuffing, oatmeal, cereal, and what ever other non perishable (good for 60+ days) stuff that you NORMALLY EAT and are going to eat. This is fridays spaghetti, saturdays chilli and corn bread, sundays oatmeal, etc. This stuff is in constant roation with little effort. Eat it then put it on the list to replace, keep a few spares of each. Doing this costs us nothing except an initial outlay of cash. Even that can be done over time. The cost of our normal eating doesn't chance at all. The old addage that it costs as much to run on the top half of a gas tank as the bottom half comes to mind. That 2 dollar box of spaghetti noodles and 3 dollar jar of sauce cost as much to eat if it came out of the bag (from the store) after work or if it is one of the 10 boxes of noodles and 8 boxes of sauce in the pantry. Sometimes savings can be gained in purchasing in such bulk.

The next area is stuff specifically for long term survivalism. This would be the wheat, rice, beans, etc.

The last area is that long term zero (or real low) prep stuff like dehydrated food and mre's. These are a much higher cost per meal then staple goods or even normal pantry food. Having a modest supply of a week or so of these is not a bad idea if cash is available for it. Otherwise just keep the pantry stocked with normal stuff and stock staples. No need to have 48 cases of MRE's. Get a couple of cases and then put the other cash to staples.

Vikki said...

Great posting on "store what you eat". I'm working on that very premise for our family of 3. I've put together a list of what we have stored, and now am working on menu-planning for a full 365 days. It takes a lot of planning because 2 of us are very picky eaters. Thanks for posting. Vikki www.food-self-sufficiency.blogspot.com