NO FRIDGE
I was pretty spoiled for five years. Three years at the casino and I got a free meal each shift. That was my main meal of the day, fatty fries and a lot of meat on a sandwich. Then the last two years I got two free meals a day, both bread. A white flour item for breakfast and a whole wheat bread for lunch. Hey, bread was free for the taking ( about my only perk there ). Now, I have to buy all of my food and it sure hurts financially. The last time I fed myself all three meals a day meat was an average of $1 a pound. Now it is more like $3. And on top of that I have no freezer to buy sale items. I will eventually substitute canning for the freezer, if things hold together that long and meat is still affordable.
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Not having a fridge is really no big deal. In actual fact the only thing one is good for ( assuming the average urban worker lifestyle ) is leftovers and condiments. If you plan your meals carefully you won't have leftovers. And most condiments will survive without cold. We started living without the fridge in the middle of summer so it was a good test to what could and couldn't survive in a hot metal box. Mustard and relish and ketchup are all okay without an icebox. For mayonnaise I had to buy the little packets at a restaurant supply place. Almost twenty bucks for two hundred, but mayo is a luxury we decided we really wanted. Try eating a tuna fish sandwich without them ( and don't forget the scurvy scum sucking bastards raised the price twenty percent while reducing the sized by 15% as the can size went from six ounces to five- thanks for the overfishing! ). I'm not really too sure about the survivability of jelly. It looks okay but I seem to get a bit ill after eating it. Well, it could be the peanut butter. I'm still alive, so it didn't kill me, but just to be sure I'm eating honey now instead of jam.
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Monday, Wednesday and Friday are meat days. I pick up whatever is under three bucks at the store on my way home. We eat rice or canned beans or noodles along with it. Tuesday is tuna sandwich day. Thursday is rice mixed with a can of chili. Eating rice along tastes bad and eating chili alone gives me indigestion. Combining the two works much better and relatively cheap. Saturday is fried egg sandwich day, at least as long as I can afford to drive into town each Saturday and don't have to cut back on my gas consumption. If I go into town by bike every other weekend I could still do eggs. I have a 45 minute commute each way by bike and nothing goes bad in the heat except fresh hamburger. On Sunday it is fried potato day. So fresh meat is under ten bucks a week. Canned meat and eggs about $3 or $4. I won't eat meat with preservatives in it so I insist on buying the fresh ( to speak nothing of the taste ).
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Yes, as time and money permit, I'll get an icebox. And right now I could easily do the buried ( dead ) fridge for a insulated hay-box type. But we can't afford much produce except potatoes so we don't have to protect that from the heat. And if we could I could always just buy it a day or two at a time since I'm already in town for work. Instead of butter, which is expensive, we sparingly use a room stable margarine ( the Parkay squeezable is $1.50 and is refrigerator recommended, all other types are refrigerator required ). There is the butter crock method, but as I said about cost... ( and the wife won't eat room temperature stored butter, I've tried in the past ). For cheese you could always use a lightly wetted with vinegar cheese cloth for hard cheeses.
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I don't know how much this will help you. Back East with the humidity it won't be this easy. And it is cheap and easy to build your own icebox and ice block maker ( detailed previously ). But perhaps due to power grid failure or loss of income or going to live grid free you might find this information helpful.
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Friday, September 19, 2008
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Buy a block 2 pound block of cheddar cheese and take off the wrapper. Let it dry for 2 days (out of the sun). Dip half of it in melted paraffin and let the wax harden, then do the other half. No refrigeration required. Thats the way it used to come from the store.
My mother sent my Tillamook cheese blocks when I was in Vietnam. We peeled off the wax and wiped off the oil. It was good.
There are a lot of practical things people have lost the knowledge of. I grew up with practical people from another time, I'm only 49 but my grandpa was born in 1876. my parents few up in the depression. they taught me a lot of common sense stuff. keep the info coming - I appreciate it very much...
How do you keep the beer cold?
hey.
HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR COOL. (head )
Thanks for getting back to the practical stuff, rather than ranting.
- Fredling
have you thought of digging a hole under the trailer and putting a cooler in it, with some ice maybe?
Just a suggestion
old fart
old fart 6.23pm - Have you thought about STFU? Seriously - old people shouldn't be heard let alone seen.
Unwashed eggs fresh from the bird will last a couple of weeks if kept relatively cool, perhaps in a hole dug into the earth.
A number of times I have carried a dozen eggs on backpacking trips into the mountains and they were still fresh after a week. Natural substances on the outer shell protect them.
Perhaps a local sells fresh eggs that you pick up on your way to or from work. Our egg guy actually delivers to my friends place of business.
BTW, I eat six eggs every morning and they are a staple food of mine. And my cholesterol? Eggscellent! Eggs have nothing to do with high cholesterol no matter what big pharma wants you to believe.
anony 2:33 The only sound you will hear as I slit your throat will be the girgling of your life slipping away
low energy refrigerator that could be run by battery/inverter charged on solar:
http://greenbluebrown.blogspot.com/2007/12/super-efficient-chest-fridge-with.html
Solar panels won't run the 12V fridge in the trailer? The fridge on my boat ran for almost a week when the power on the docks was cut for a storm surge (power lines ran under the dock, had to "wade" out to the boat!) on 2 regular old group 24 car batteries (the "house bank" on the boat). I did start the engines up for 15 minutes or so every day for a bit of recharging tho....
No fridge? Can't afford lunch meat and mayo? Are you slave labor,dirt cheap,or live in a cave,or all of the above??
this has to be a joke posting.You have a job for 5 yr's,free meal's,and can't collect enough pocket change in 5 yr's to afford a fridge?You ride a bike 45 minute's each way to the store,I'm sure uphill both way's,in chest deep snow too!Maybe,just a thought..Trade your computer for a fridge!!!!What a jerk!!
Ahhh, I see the idiot flamers are still around. The point of Jim's lifestyle exercise is to be off grid. He does not have the power for a fridge and is trying to share his ideas for doing with out.
Mr Anonymous, you will be in a sad state when the power/cable/heated recliner goes on the fritz. I for one have learned alot of frugal ways to do things. Yes I will be forced to aim for a little bit higher standard due to the wifes standards, but I know she will accept less dpending on how bad things get.
I know I am wasting my breath but please go away. Some of us really enjoy Jim's posts and ideas.
In respect to 7:39 and the gurgling comment. You will never find the little weasel. His mother will not answer the door.
Keep up the great posts Jim. Another loyal minion.
Nightshift
Living "off the grid?"seem's he has a computer,a job,and has no money for food.I'll bet 20 buck's he has 50,000 round's of ak ammo too!He must have some power to his computer,must have a home,claim's to have a wife...If he think's he's ready for SHTF,without a generator,food,whatever,this is the kind of person that Darwin meant to be left behind.I'm sure I'll pass him on the road in my V10 dually,as he pedal's his leg's off,with a sign that say's,"feed me".He's a loser.
Anonymous, do you know how to read?
1- Jim posts from the local library on his lunch breaks.
2- He is providing the rest of us with his real life SHTF experiences. We are grateful for this, and adjust our preps accordingly.
3- I would love to have Jim as a neighbor. He takes care of himself and his family.
You, on the other hand, are either 12 years old (most likely) or so young and stupid as to think everyone has the same resources available. Grow up.
Sam - I bet your mum is hot
Gayish way of life.
Try it.
nightshift.
I love finding out new ways to do things, learning how to be more self-sufficient, and saving money - Jim rules! :)
Trish.
If you like new ways to do things , I CAN SHOW YOU NEW POSITIONS THAT YOU GONNA LOVE.
NEW FLAVORS
NEW WAYS
DAY AND NICHT.
GROUP SESSIONS
AC DC
Nightshift.
Nightshift, I am laughing my ass off...I might just take you up on that. Gets lonely up here in the north country, and it's getting colder...!
Oh....Oh
Trish, you must realize I was talking about YOGA and COOKING.
Nightshift.
I have lived "off the grid" for 1 year. No electricity, no fridge, no generator. But I was not in the middle of nowhere and I had plenty of fresh pure water. I did not disdain canned meat or canned goods of any kind and I didn't die from added chemicals. I ate a lot of rice and beans (from dry beans). I used a lot of dry milk. My transportation was just a bicycle. After a year, I had enough and went back to so-called normal life in these United States. However, the experience was priceless: you can live and live well on very little. The point is I learned a lot and I appreciate what Jim is going through. Also, I am less afraid because of my experience. I now know that it can be done and it won't kill us. The hardest part of doing without is psychological: we are so use to a fantastically high standard of living.
>Seriously - old people shouldn't >be heard let alone seen.
ha! my father's generation fucked things up real good, and my generation didn't do any better.
too bad the only jobs left for you little wankers are going to be flipping burgers or wiping our smelly asses down at the old folks homes... you little punks can't even count or make change, how the hell are you kids goin' to save the world much less feed yourselves ?
While it's admirable to live without refrigeration/electricity, here's a relatively cheap alternative: Buy a chest freezer at a garage sale. Get a couple of PV panels, a cheap inverter and a golf cart battery (inexpensive at Costco). Install a fridge on/off temp sensor in the freezer, set it for fridge temps.
This combination will pretty much equal a $3000.00 Sunfrost at a fraction of the cost, for many years of cost-free, off-grid refrigeration.
Regards,
Hawaiian K.
While living off the grid is admirable,it doesn't mean you need to go without a few normal comfort's of life.Assume that SHTF,and you have to hunt or fish for survival.If you were to bag a deer,or catch 4 fish,how do you plan to keep them?You could smoke them,make a ton of jerky or such,but a freezer or fridge is handier.A generator should be one of the first item's on your list of "must have's".Used fridge's are dirt cheap at yard sale's,and can still be used without power if you can get ice.My RV has a 3 way fridge,12 volt,gas,and 110 volt,so it can be used in almost any situation.And,assuming local zoning and ordinance's allow,why not get a few chicken's?You get egg's and a meat source,needing no fridge from the start!Plant a garden,get a pellet gun and tag pidgeon's!It boggle's my mind to see people claim to have 50,000 round's of ammo,but no food supply.Seed's are cheap at the local hardware/home supply store,save the seed's from item's you buy at the grocery store,you'd be amazed at the garden you can make!I believe that when SHTF,these will be a better barter item's than silver,gold,or ammo.Just my opinion.
22LR rifle or pellet rifle???.
re CCI 22 CB Longs
Survival Guns by Mel Tappan
page 177 quote " In a barrel of 22" or longer the CB cap is almost totally silent. At a distance of 8 feet from the muzzle of my 24" Anschutz, the sound level from firing was only 9 db, and at 15 feet was totally inaudible. Not only does this lack of noise make the CCI long CB caps desireable for indoor or backyard target practice, it makes them virtually a necessity for survival use should you ever need to do some shooting without attracting attention or alarming game in the neighborhood."
You will wish to try the Remington subsonic 22LR round. It has three times the impact, but is little louder than the CB.
videos comparison several 22LR subsonic rounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmk6HM2INgI
Ok, I logged in. Mr Anonymous is an idiot. Trish, sorry but that was the idiot. Although I do get up north sometimes....wink. He even forgot to capitalize my name. Mr Anonymous, I'm sorry but I am strait. No AC-DC here. Taking over an Identity is the lowest. James you can verify it is the real nightshift by checking my e-mail addy. We corresponded a few times in the past.
I happen to respect old people. Hope to be one one day :). Vlad Kick Mr anonymous' ass.
Thanks TMM 8:47AM
Great reference:
http://greenbluebrown.blogspot.com/2007/12/super-efficient-chest-fridge-with.html
You (and Hawaian K.) have awaken me to another alternative for refridgeration that I was totally unaware of. Seems like a great idea.
I love the cheap Sunfrost alternative idea!
Coleman makes a 6-day cooler. I've never tried it, but a friend's husband did, and said it works well.
I've also heard of, but never tried, this;
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Pot-in-a-Pot-Refrigerator
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/22792
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